How To Learn From Everyone

Shane Leaning chats with Ben Whitaker about his new book "The Ideas Guy" and why he thinks we're all capable of being idea generators. Ben's an education consultant who specialises in education leadership training and co-hosts the Edufuturists podcast, and he's got some fascinating takes on school leadership coaching. Rather than hunting for that perfect role model (spoiler alert: they don't exist), Ben's all about picking and mixing ideas from loads of different people - even the ones with questionable ethics.

We explore everything from Sir Ken Robinson's unconventional paths to Brené Brown's thoughts on vulnerability as a leadership strength. Ben challenges the whole notion of trying to cram more stuff into education and makes a compelling case for school improvement strategies that focus on creating more space instead. If you're an international school leadership team looking for fresh school leadership tips, or just want to think differently about organisational change in schools, this conversation's going to get you thinking. Plus, Ben drops some wisdom about why curiosity gets trained out of us and how we can get it back.

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